{"id":257427,"date":"2022-06-20T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-20T18:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/?p=257427"},"modified":"2023-08-08T15:10:56","modified_gmt":"2023-08-08T21:10:56","slug":"have-spiritual-conversations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/blog\/have-spiritual-conversations\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Have Spiritual Conversations"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p>Evert is a trainer at a gym in Amsterdam where <a href=\"https:\/\/donations.navigators.org\/s\/fund\/a4e1Q000000UcIyQAK\/scott-and-briana-trout?sf_ac=w07\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scott Trout<\/a>, a Navigator, exercises. One day they started talking before a group class. Evert asked Scott what kind of work he did, and Scott said that he has spiritual conversations with international students. Evert was intrigued about that and said that he wanted to have spiritual conversations as well.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"614\" class=\"wp-image-257428\" src=\"https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/06.21.22-Article-Web-1024x614.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/06.21.22-Article-Web-1024x614.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/06.21.22-Article-Web-300x180.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/06.21.22-Article-Web-768x461.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/06.21.22-Article-Web.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>\r\n<figcaption>From left to right: Evert and Scott<\/figcaption>\r\n<\/figure>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>They met again the next day, and then, along with meeting with Scott, Evert started hanging out with the international students and participating in Navigators social activities and spiritual discussions.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>\u201cAt first I just started hanging out because I was curious and I connected with Scott and the other people,\u201d says Evert. \u201cThey are not judgmental, and we have interesting discussions. People seem open to deep conversations and to opening up about themselves. I didn\u2019t grow up in a religious family, but in the village where I lived as a child, many people were Catholic, so we knew about Jesus and Christmas and Easter, but I\u2019d never read the Bible.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Scott observes that many Dutch people are skeptical about Christianity and aren\u2019t very interested in reading the Bible. However, even from the start, Evert was interested in engaging in discussions and asking questions. \u201cHe came to our fall launch activities and helped at our table where we had a \u2018conversation wheel\u2019 to invite people into spiritual discussions,\u201d Scott said. \u201cEvert and I paired up to interview people and ask them about spiritual topics. We also started reading the Bible together, beginning in Genesis. We talked about how God created people in a trust relationship and how that trust was broken and led to the brokenness we see in the world.\u201d<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Now Evert is part of a small group reading about Jesus in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.navpress.com\/p\/mark\/9780891099109\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">book of Mark<\/a>. People in the group are all along the spectrum of faith and belief, with several agnostics and others who follow Jesus. But together they think about and discuss what Jesus says and what it means for their own lives.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>As he reflects on his Dutch culture, Evert says, \u201cBecause we aren\u2019t religious anymore, we don\u2019t really have guidance for our lives. We get consumed by ourselves. We don\u2019t really have poverty in the Netherlands, so people are focused on how to make money and live the good life. They don\u2019t see the big picture of their spiritual condition.\u201d<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-using-your-interests-to-build-intentional-relationships\">Using Your Interests to Build Intentional Relationships<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>The international student population in Amsterdam represents a vibrant group from around the world. Scott and Briana Trout have been in Amsterdam for several years as part of a team that reaches out to international students and to locals. Scott and Briana model how natural relationships can come from interactions where they live, work, and play as they help the students they disciple think about evangelism and outreach.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Briana is a registered dietitian and has seen how her interest in food can bring people together. Recently she started teaching a workshop on Southeast Asian cuisine for a Dutch cooking class. She learned to cook Vietnamese food as a teenager, from her mother who was born in Vietnam and immigrated to the U.S. The cooking classes include people from all over the world and offer an opportunity for conversation and connection.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Along with reaching out to international students and in cooking classes, other natural connections for Briana have come from continuing friendships with moms who were in her birthing class when she had Naomi (born in late 2020).\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Recently two of the women she has been discipling have decided they are ready for the next step of faith and want to be baptized, as part of their commitment to following Jesus. One of the women is from Japan, and the other from Cura\u00e7ao (in the Caribbean), illustrating the international nature of their community in Amsterdam.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Scott is an actor and recently was accepted into an improv group, where he is building relationships. \u201cBeing involved in theater is a great way to show the human story, and how it goes awry. In this improv group, I will be able to develop ongoing relationships with the other people, as we work together regularly. This is just another way of showing students that we can invest our energy in something we love and along the way have spiritual conversations with people in our circle.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Another way Scott initiates spiritual conversations is a podcast he created, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/between-two-worlds\/id1523091917\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cBetween Two Worlds,\u201d<\/a> that features peoples\u2019 spiritual stories, including those who follow different religions. Scott says, \u201cMy hope is that by telling their story and listening to mine, they might be more open to Christ entering into that story.\u201d<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<blockquote>\r\n<p><strong>Pray<\/strong> for those who are curious about Jesus and learning more about faith will continue to engage in their community.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-consider-serving-internationally\">Consider Serving Internationally<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Navigators iEDGE teams are made up of recent college graduates in their early to mid 20s. They invest two years in an international ministry training experience on university campuses overseas.\u00a0<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Come serve and grow alongside long-term Navigator leaders as you expand Jesus\u2019 Kingdom by engaging with university students in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.navigators.org\/life-to-life\/?sf_ac=w07\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Life-to-Life<sup>\u00ae<\/sup> Discipleship<\/a>. Explore our page to learn more about locations and exciting new opportunities within <a href=\"https:\/\/iedge.org\/?sf_ac=w07\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">iEDGE!<\/a><\/p>\r\n<p>\r\n\r\n<\/p>\r\n\t<aside class=\"cta\">\n\t\t<h3>Ask Great Questions!<\/h3>\n\t\tJust as Scott invited Evert into engaging conversations. You, too, can be genuinely curious to understand someone else\u2019s story and point of view. In <em>How to Ask Great Questions<\/em>, author Karen Lee Thorp gives helpful tips on crafting great questions to create an engaging conversation. This could be useful in everyday conversations or even in a small group setting. Click the link below for more information about this great resource, <em>How to Ask Great Questions<\/em>.\t\t<p style=\"text-align: center; margin-bottom: 0;\"><a class=\"button orange\" href=\"http:\/\/navlink.org\/questions\">I\u2019m Interested!<\/a><\/p>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\r\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Evert is a trainer at a gym in Amsterdam where Scott Trout, a Navigator, exercises. One day they started talking before a group class. Evert asked Scott what kind of work he did, and Scott said that he has spiritual conversations with international students. 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